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Fate, Up Against Your Will

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For the Horde side of this quest, see Herald of War.

Assist in Orgrimmar. Speak to the Warchief of the Horde,, at Orgrimmar on the continent of Kalimdor.

At the behest of Lady Proudmoore, I will allow a diplomatic mission to Orgrimmar to question the Horde's Warchief, Thrall. You will assist her in this journey and keep her safe from harm. Return to me with news from Orgrimmar.

Speak to Jaina when you are ready to leave.

The Horde does not want war,. Listen well...

Talk to Jaina in Stormwind City:

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  • ''Both the player and Jaina take the portal to Grommash Hold in Orgrimmar. On arrival, the s in the throne room come up to attack before Thrall calls them off. is also in attendance, kneeling before Thrall.
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  • Jaina takes the portal back to Stormwind City.
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The title of the quest seems to come from a line of the Echo & the Bunnymen song, "The Killing Moon".

All of Orgrimmar and Durotar can be explored while on this quest. The city appears deserted except for a large number of s plus some other NPCs in the Valley of Strength, and there are some guards wandering around the rest of the city. None of these will attack, and though they are shown as hostile (red) they cannot be attacked, either. It is even possible to go outside and into the rest of the world, with more refugees outside the gates of Orgrimmar.

The Alliance player is phased for all of Durotar and safe from all Horde NPCs and Horde players; indeed, all the regular NPCs are missing. Only if they leave Durotar, or step off a Zeppelin tower and onto a docked zeppelin route will they leave the phased zone. Returning to Durotar or zeppelin tower will re-phase the player.

Ever since Patch 3.0.2, some Alliance players came to realize that the phasing mechanic could allow them to complete the Fishing Achievements and in total safety from any Orgrimmar guards or Horde players. While this wasn't strictly a game-breaking mechanic, it was unfair to Horde players who wanted to complete and, as there is no opportunity to phase Ironforge in the same way. This is likely the reason why exactly six months later, Patch 3.1.0 changed this so that phased players can only fish up trash.

Source

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Fate%2C_Up_Against_Your_Will · retrieved 2023-11-13 · CC BY-SA 4.0

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